Former Rep. Kinzinger reflects on GOP and future of democracy in Renegade

Fmr. Rep. Adam Kinzinger: Because I think there's a lot of cowardice. And I guess I don't mean that as just a pejorative attack for no reason, just to be mean. It's like, it's truly people, I think, fear more than they fear death, they fear being kicked out of a tribe, and they

Fmr. Rep. Adam Kinzinger:

Because I think there's a lot of cowardice. And I guess I don't mean that as just a pejorative attack for no reason, just to be mean.

It's like, it's truly people, I think, fear — more than they fear death, they fear being kicked out of a tribe, and they fear losing an identity. And if you stand up against somebody like Donald Trump, and you violate this, like, intense feeling of a party, you're going to lose both. You're going to lose your identity as a member of Congress.

Some people just love carrying that around. And you're going to be kicked out of a Republican tribe. And, as we know, that tribal alliance, so that affiliation, carries now not just into your political job, but the friends you have, the church you go to and everything else.

And I think there are people that were hoping I would succeed and hoping Liz Cheney would succeed, but they just didn't want to be on the front lines of that. And, unfortunately — you know, I'm happy to have done it. I have no regrets in standing up, and that's why I continue to do it.

But it needed to be more than just me and Liz Cheney, because, unfortunately, there's too many people that just continue to say that Donald Trump did nothing wrong.

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